how important are C1s

[maddogg101920]

like what do they do how much are they used....im rebuilding my trans right now and i got the C2s out but the snap ring that holds the C1s in is being a pain, i just cant get it out, so what do C1s really do, i have after market ones but with the trouble its giving me i dont mind not replacing them if its not necessary, but i do have lots of metal shavings around the C2s and C1 clutch packs.

 

[SmokeShow]

IIRC, the C1s are used in EVERY forward gear. Lose them and you lose the ability to move forward with the power of the truck.


C-ya

 

[maddogg101920]

IIRC, the C1s are used in EVERY forward gear. Lose them and you lose the ability to move forward with the power of the truck.


C-ya

well now i know that i need to get them out, any ideas on how to get that second snap ring out, i got the spiral one, but i cant get the second one out.
FWIW i had no forward gears when my trans let go.

 

[psyco66]

Call Mike L at the shop he will help you out.

 

[maddogg101920]

ok got the snap ring off, now im trying to get my completely fried C1s out, most of the clutches have nothing on them, there toast, my C3s and C4s were a lil bunt too as well as a lil wear on my C2s.

 

[psyco66]

Good thing you pulled them out. If you do not mind how did did you get the ring out. I am pulling my trans down in a week.

 

[maddogg101920]

Good thing you pulled them out. If you do not mind how did did you get the ring out. I am pulling my trans down in a week.

really small screw driver, bigger screw driver, hammer and 4 clamps to keep the pressure off of the ring....the problem im having now is getting the clutches off, i think they got so bad they warped a lil cuz i cant get em out, the new ones slid right on but i still have half of the old ones that wont come off.

 

[duratothemax]

they are really important.

 

[JoshH]

The C1s are used in gears 1-4. I had my C1s do the same thing you are describing. I ended up using a pair of bent needle nose pliers to pry between the steel and the clutch to work the steel loose. Once it was loose I could slowly work it to the top and off the shaft. It was a major PITA.

 

[LBZ]

Were they warped Josh? Or just burnt?

 

[JoshH]

Both. The steels had stuck to the shaft, and it caused them to bind up and hold even after the apply piston had released. I could no longer go forward when I pulled the trans apart.

 

[maddogg101920]

thats how mine were too, but i finished the rebuild today and tom. ill start puttin it back in and finishing up everything.