Engine teardown

jpowel29

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After my last race I started to see very small bits of copper in the oil filter (changed filter twice and found it both times after brief startup and run-up). I change oil/filter after each race so it was caught early. Motor never ran rough, smoked, or sounded abnormal. Hot/cold oil pressure was normal, nothing out of the ordinary.

I pulled the motor. Found only a few small bits of copper in the bottom of the pan sump. I pulled the lower rod and main bearing caps and the bottom half of each bearing looks perfect. Bottom side of main and rod journals look perfect (no blueing, no cracks, no scratches). Rotating assembly was balanced with ATS billet flexplate and ATI damper. Block has billet main caps and girdle. Did not check crank endplay before pulling the caps but the way everything looks it will still be in tolerance.

Turbo is still new ball bearing and the heads are still in great shape (no guide wear, rocker shafts are all good, lifters look new, and pushrods are straight). Piston tops are good.

About the only thing left could be a cam bearing or wrist pin bushing. Have yet to pull the cam or remove the rods/pistons.

Motor was turned over 4400rpm regularly being raced. EGTs were typically 1700deg at the top end of the track and I run a small nitrous solenoid at times at WOT.

Any other thoughts on what else to check?
 

Stingpuller

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I would look at the pin bushing in the rod. I would bet if the clearance was not opened up that will be the problem. Let me know i'm wondering now. What happened to you and Mike at the races? You guys could have hung around a little bit and bs'd a little. Jeff
 

jpowel29

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I would look at the pin bushing in the rod. I would bet if the clearance was not opened up that will be the problem. Let me know i'm wondering now. What happened to you and Mike at the races? You guys could have hung around a little bit and bs'd a little. Jeff

We should have. We ended up back at the hotel and chilled for a little while in the AC.

I will have the pistons out and off the rods tomorrow after work. I guess I am a little relieved about the bearings being in good shape - a lot to be said for good oil clearances and frequent oil changes. Going to try a different cam grind and put a little compression back into it while I have it down.
 

jpowel29

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The "material" I am seeing in the oil & filter is small amounts of piston material flaking off. Once I submerged the piston tops in solvent I saw exactly what I was seeing in the oil. The solvent made it easy to identify it as aluminum.

Pistons are not trashed at all, only very light areas around the crown edge show traces of erosion. A combination of EGT, timing, and nitrous started the process.

Going to go back with a thinner head gasket and put a little compression back in. Play around with the timing and likely lay off the nitrous unless (easier said than done).
 

rcr1978

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That does'nt make sense I dont see how material off the top off the piston is going to make it into the oil, I think you should keep looking.