Diesel S-10

[Akdiesel]

Hey guys,
I know this may be a bit out of the question but I have an 89 S-10 that is tired and is need of a repower. I really have been wanting to do a Duramax/Ally combo in this badboy and make it a comp only drag truck. Just wanted to get everyone’s thoughts. This isn’t something that’s going to happen tomorrow or next week just something I’ve been thinking about for a long time and wanted to get everyone’s input and also if there was any other motor that may better fit the bill and accomplish my desired endstate.

 

[TrentNell]

it would be a tight fit in an 89 , and would most certainly require a new tunnel made in the cab to clear the Alli , but nothing is impossible and if it worked that thing would be fning fast

 

[Chevy1925]

You may wanna talk the guy that has done it in his s-10 over on DP tony. he jsut put a LBZ or LLY in a s-10 under the frankenstein section. definitly will require a good amount of trans tunnel work though

 

[Akdiesel]

No biggie on trans tunnel work I plan on doing this when I have ready access to a welder/cutting tools and when I have those tools I can slap some metal together if i do say so myself. I am mainly looking at weight aspect on the front end/overall frame strength. I posted in his thread but he does mud boggers with SFAs but maybe he'll provide some info

 

[Chevy1925]

No biggie on trans tunnel work I plan on doing this when I have ready access to a welder/cutting tools and when I have those tools I can slap some metal together if i do say so myself. I am mainly looking at weight aspect on the front end/overall frame strength. I posted in his thread but he does mud boggers with SFAs but maybe he'll provide some info

this is very true. is yours 2wd or 4wd?

 

[Akdiesel]

2wheeler peeler

 

[duramax3388]

this would be vary cool to do hell a stock lbz and ally might live for a while in one of these since there wouldnt be any waight to it at all.

 

[Akdiesel]

That's what I'm thinking...stock bottom end for as long as it holds out and a dew upgrades here and there and it should run great

 

[malibu795]

forget the allison use a th400 or 4l80
not saying the alli wouldnt be cool ... but 80 or 400 is shorter and easier to package

and your talking something would barely grose 4000lb when done

 

[Akdiesel]

Thts true would one of those trans hold up to a fairy high HP dmax?

 

[malibu795]

Thts true would one of those trans hold up to a fairy high HP dmax?

can you get the power to the ground?

th400 with out a doubt
4l80 4th/OD is the week link.. wieght beings and issue
the NX dmax stang is pushing 9 sec 1/4s wieghs 3300lb w/o driver and runs a full built 4l80 manual vb with trans brake
and current spec on the car.

Wolfe Race Craft 25.1c , current NHRA chassis tag to 7.50 et .
Complete Wolfe RaceCraft chassis with AJE struts, shocks and Wolfe RaceCraft anti roll bar . rear link suspension AJE tubular front control arms
weight: Race ready w/driver 3475lbs w/o driver 3300lbs
GlassTek body panels ,
Paint: Porsche Guards Red
Rear Spoiler: Ed Quay Race Cars
Vehicle Engine:
KPE built 427 C.I.D. DuraMax Diesel
Pistons: custom 4.125 Mahle with 1.156 tool steel DLC coated pins
Rods: Crower custom 1.156 pin, hemi rod journal
Crank: Bullet Stroker 4.00”
Cam: MaxSpool 2.6 218 230 112 , MaxSpool Dual Springs and Titanium retainers
ZZ Custom Fabrication oval port competition cylinder heads
ZZ Custom Fabrication sheet metal intake manifold , oil pan
Custom Industrial Injection Phatshaft 71mm
Diesel Performance Research billet oil pump
Industrial Injection single DragonFire 1.20% and custom injectors
FASS-Fuel Air Separation Systems
Snow Performance Water/Meth Injection:
K&N custom air Filters
Exhaust piping: 4" oval by Spin Tech
Exhaust Manifolds- BD Diesel Performance
Engineering Diesel 60MM Wastegate and Adaptor
Meziere radiator , and high pressure mechanical Water pump- Custom Meziere
ECU: GM ECD16 standalone John (JohnBoy ) Jordan
Nitrous Nitrous System: Nitrous Express single stage NXD 5000 boost reference progressive controller

Vehicle Driveline:
Transmission: full billet Full manual 4L-80 w/trans brake
Converter: Suncoast Lock-up
DTS Custom Shop sheet metal 9"Strange 40 spine axle, spool, Aluminum Ultra Case
NASCAR dual Daytona Bearings Gear Ratio: 3.25
Front Wheels: Weld Magnum P.R.O. 3.5 X 15
Rear Wheels: Weld Magnum P.R.O. 12 X 15 Double Bead Lock
Rear Tires: Mickey Thompson ET Street Radials 315 X 60R 15
Front Tires: Mickey Thompson ET Street Radials Front runners
Front Brakes: WilWood

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92855

 

[Akdiesel]

Wow...and I actually can work on TH400s. Never been into a 4l80 but hey it's worth a shot an they're more price effective than an ally

 

[Chevy1925]

Wow...and I actually can work on TH400s. Never been into a 4l80 but hey it's worth a shot an they're more price effective than an ally

AND much less mods need to be done to the trans tunnel, if any

 

[JOHNBOY]

can you get the power to the ground?

th400 with out a doubt
4l80 4th/OD is the week link.. wieght beings and issue
the NX dmax stang is pushing 9 sec 1/4s wieghs 3300lb w/o driver and runs a full built 4l80 manual vb with trans brake
and current spec on the car.
http://www.competitiondiesel.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92855

That trans was not even a full build. Just a Trans go and a Manual valve body with trans brake. All stock late model guts.

It now has billet goodies in it.

Never had any issues with OD even when shifting the Gear Vendor on with the TCC locked up.

A TH400 would work but no overdrive and no lockup means you would need a lot of tire.

The only bummer to the 4l80 IMHO is when you get up in the power like the Mustang first gear is to much. I have to pull power out to first gear to get it to stick to the track.

The full awesome would be a two speed turbo glide with a 1.78 low, TCC lockup, and trans brake.

 

[Akdiesel]

Hmm...man you guys are getting the gears in my head turning.

Got the truck.
Want to go LLY+ motor so injector swaps are easier
Need to price trans
Get a CAD program and start working:happy2:

 

[SmokeShow]

Yep, if a big block will fit, so will a dmax. I'd def. go 4l80/85 if I were you!

Back half it and go bust out some fast times with a stock bottom end dmax!

 

[Akdiesel]

That's true...I'll have to look up the BBC builds as those would hold some promise for design ideas as I'm not the first person to think of it or do it. Again it's a pipe dream at the moment but maybe someday it'll come to fruition just going to be an expensive long process...oh well with sponsorship deals being a dismal outlook I'll just do it myself and be damn proud if I ever get it done

 

[68skylark455]

The only issue we have ever had in S10 swaps was the frame. If it came out with a 4.3 v6 the frame opens up wider past the cab then the earlier 2.8/3.4 version and the exhaust was a bitch on those but the 4.3 version was cake. Also if you look into the Bravada, Typhoon, cyclone setups they had some posi all wheel drives variations for the running gear. An all wheel drive Dmax s10 would be badass!

 

[Akdiesel]

Thanks Larry I'll have to look into it. What have you guys done about frame reinforcement? It doesn't look like the mini truck frame would hold up to the tq of a dmax very well.

 

[68skylark455]

As long as we could retain the cross members on the frame we never had any issues. You could easily box it in from front to just behind the cab. They have pretty stout frames to start with anyways. You could also rob a hydroboost system off and astro van I believe and make it work. The only downside could be the 4wheel abs system most of them had, if yours is only 2 wheel then your fine, if its 4 wheel its going to be in your way-big ass box on drivers fender looks like a plumbers nightmare-they worked great but @ a cost of $1200-$1500 to replace it its not worth jacking with.