Dad poses as gunman to test school security

Dozerboy

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Ok the guy isn't the sharpest tool in the shed and is lucky someone didn't shoot him. I'm not sure that this really proves anything other then you never really know how people will react to a situation.

This is shocking though
Another parent Misti Schramme told The Dallas Morning News she trusts security measures in Celina and thinks her child's school is safe: "You can’t live in fear all the time."


A Texas man is facing third-degree felony charges of making a terroristic threat after he allegedly told elementary school staffers he brought a gun to the building, NBCDFW.com reported.

Officials say Ronald Miller was unarmed Wednesday when he told a school greeter outside Celina Elementary School that he had a gun, according to NBCDFW.com. The town of Celina is just north of Dallas.

The greeter froze in panic when Miller said he was a gunman and his target was inside, Celina Independent School District Superintendent Donny O'Dell told NBCDFW.com. Miller was then able to walk into the school and entered the office.

"He told them that he is a shooter and 'you're dead, and you're dead,'" O'Dell told NBCDFW.com. Never showing a weapon, Miller then reportedly revealed his stunt was a test of school safety and he wanted to talk to the principal.

School staffers knew Miller, who was a father of a student, and police were not called until he left the school, The Dallas Morning News reported. He was arrested Wednesday evening and is being held in lieu of $75,000 bail, the newspaper added.

School security and gun control have been hotly debated since the Dec. 14 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., claimed the lives of 20 children and six adult staffers.

In a letter to parents dated Thursday, O'Dell said Wednesday's test was done "in a rogue manner."

"We have always had a security plan in place that involved our police officials," O'Dell wrote. "However, because of recent events we have ramped-up our security efforts on all campuses."

O'Dell did not respond to NBC News' phone and email requests for comment Friday. Representatives of the Celina PTA board did not respond to email requests for comment Friday.

David Siano, a parent at the school, told NBCDFW.com that the incident shows that "we are not prepared."

"His intent was just simply to say, 'you've done nothing' and that's what it showed," Siano said. "So (if) that’s what it takes, it’s a shame."

Another parent Misti Schramme told The Dallas Morning News she trusts security measures in Celina and thinks her child's school is safe: "You can’t live in fear all the time."

School safety expert Ken Trump told NBC News on Friday that he encourages parents to "ask probing questions" about their child's school security and emergency prep.

In the last few decades, Americans have witnessed a number of high-profile school shootings, including the 2007 attack at Virginia Tech and the 1999 massacre at Columbine High School in Colorado.

On Thursday, an armed student entered a Taft, Calif. high school and wounded a 16-year-old teen. A teacher and campus supervisor persuaded the shooter to drop the gun.
 

lts1ow

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Not surprised, back when 9/11 ramped up airport security, there was a few instances of reporters getting blatant illegal items past "boosted security"
 

Texas Chevy

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I think a better planned approach involving school officials would have been a better approach to a test but then again you have to do what you have to do if no one else will test it.

I truly enjoyed the NRA s comercial about the presidents choldren being protected by guns but ours can't be. I am ok with teachers being trained to protect children. Even mine. I know when I was in high school we had school police who were armed. And god knows probably teachers that were armed but no one knew they were but had the need arose they would have been there. Good luck to this man.
 

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No matter how he went about it, he proved a point. The school sent out a letter and obviously told lies to the parents. They did not infact ramp up security and the first point of contact did nothing but freeze up. Sadly, this is not an isolated incident. What we really need is more laws on guns. :screwy:
 

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All the public schools in my area received a grant four years ago to have 3 armed off duty cops in the high schools at all times and one armed off duty cop in the elementary and middle schools. Plus the only way to get into most schools you have to be buzzed in by a secretary. Needless to say this guy was pretty dumb.
 

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Perhaps we should ask what would be the most effective way to assure that security has been approved upon. The school officials should be held responsible for lying to the taxpayers and parents in their area and/or misappropriating funds intended for security for the school. The parent went about testing security in a bad manner but how else can a parent know their child is safe at a mandatory attendence institution.(aside from home schooling)
 

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No matter how he went about it, he proved a point. The school sent out a letter and obviously told lies to the parents. They did not infact ramp up security and the first point of contact did nothing but freeze up. Sadly, this is not an isolated incident. What we really need is more laws on guns. :screwy:

What will gun laws do even my 80year old grandma (she pointed it out at dinner the other night) knows that if you take guns from people only criminals will have them. Only law I support is to release mental evaluations durring back ground checks. That's the only way to keep crazy people from having guns.
 

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Wanna know the funny part, I bet you someone could do the exact same thing tomorrow. It would take no more than 24hrs to make schools perfectly safe. Yet, nothing has really been done.
 

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What will gun laws do even my 80year old grandma (she pointed it out at dinner the other night) knows that if you take guns from people only criminals will have them. Only law I support is to release mental evaluations durring back ground checks. That's the only way to keep crazy people from having guns.

Notice the "screwy" icon after my last sentance? ;) <---- That is a wink lol