LB7: Cuts out, white smoke, engine limp.

durallymax

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P0087, P1093. Truck will go at first but shortly after will loose the throttle and not be able to even hit 2,000rpm. Throttle finesse will sometimes get it higher, but mash the throttle and it will nearly die. Sometimes there is a cloud of blue/white smoke.

It is a cali emissions truck. starts perfect, new fuel filter.

Im thinking the filter head could be leaking. Damn cali trucks pack so much shit on it though. Any other ideas or things to check? Having EFI live troubles so Im in the stone age.

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JustinD

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We had this happen on an LBZ after the guy put a new charger on it, it turned out to be the air intake collapsing when he jumped on it, but he had a rubber boot on the inlet going to a hard pipe.
 

durallymax

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This guy did just put an s&b on. Seems odd that would throw fuel pressure codes though

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durallymax

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I ran out of time to work on it for the guy due to harvest and planting the last couple weeks, he took it to dealer and they said they found grass plugging his fuel line. few days later he calls me saying its doing the same thing. So i pull the bed, and cleaned out the junk I could find in the sending unit and tank. Then blew out the feed line from the motor back to the tank. It sounded like something shot out of it. Buttoned it back up and right away he says it feels like something is holding it back.

Its a different symptom now. before it was random extreme sluggishness with smoke due to the rapid loss of fuel. Now it is just very weak power throughout. I ramped the pressure to 23,000 at idle and it held perfect. also did at 2,000RPM. When driving though it never wanted to command over 17,000. it kept up with itself perfect the entire time, just never commanded over 17,000.

Things I have noticed.

P0404 set. EGR commanded Open % is always 0%, EGR Vacuum is always 13.9psi

Boost pressure wouldn't ever go much over 20psi absolute (6psi gauge). Tested wastegate according to book, at 30psi it starts to open and fully opens as pressure is increased. Tested MAP sensor according to book and as each in. Hg of vacuum was applied to the sensor, the reading in EFI live would drop the 0.5psi they want.

For some reason the throttle % reading was acting goofy on the drive. For awhile it just sat at 50.2% then it started moving a bit and stuck at 72.5% then once we got home we played with it in the driveway and it worked fine on his truck, went a tested it on another truck and worked perfect as well. These are just the numbers it displayed. if he let off the throttle the reading would stay up but the truck would drop to idle.

The #7 cylinder balance rate is out of spec. +4.55 in nuetral, +6.70 in drive. Ive never had a truck act like this due to an injector, but maybe this one is the exception.



I guess I am confused as to why the truck is simply not making power. Not sure where to start. Everything seems to be in check in the obvious areas and the fact that the computer just isn't commanding the pressure and such would be why error codes probably aren't being set. Where do I start on finding the culprit of why the engine is not commanding more fuel? The engine is not in reduced power as the book states P0404 cannot be set when in reduced power, and the RPMs will peg out just fine.

Could the vacuum be part of the issue? Thanks.
 

super diesel

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Do you know how many miles on the cp3 pump? Maybe it's giving up the ghost due to higher mileage (this would be indicated by the lower psi produced). You stated it went to 23K, but was this with the cp3 reg unplugged? Was wondering if it was getting stuck. Just a few areas to look.
 

durallymax

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I had wondered about CP3 but from the last one I did I remembered it wouldn't keep up with the commanded amount of fuel pressure. This ones never commanding anymore and at idle does keep up, doesn't mean it would under load though I suppose.

I did not unplug the regulator.

A return rate test could give me some answers. I think I might do one.

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gr8shot

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Sounds like the app sensor. If Its reading weird it may not be registering full throttle, so it wont command full RP.

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durallymax

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Maybe I'll swap one out if my truck into it. Just seemed odd it would still go through rpm range fine or is that unrelated? Guess it wont hurt to try. Kinda aggravating. Our 03 farm truck was doing this too. Wouldn't command over 5500. Reflashed it and it was fixed until I hauled a skid steer the other day and it was back, took forever to hit
70mph.
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