Build motor before or after it blows?

JD Dave

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I'm really having a hard time deciding if I should build my motor this winter My truck only has a 11k on it and less then 1k with Cheeta and injectors. I don't daily drive it and unless I'm pulling or drag racing. I'm putting dual fuelers on it for sure this winter because I'm out of fuel. I'm having trouble deciding what else to do.
1- Take this motor out and put it in the corner and build another motor?

2- Build the motor I have before it blows?

3-Put the dual fuelers on and cross my fingers and hope I get 1 season of pulling out of it?



I would like to try and build a motor myself but I'm in the process of getting prices on built motors also. Never built a motor before but I think I can do it with the help of friends and this site. Just looking for some advice from the guys that have been through all this before.
 
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JD Dave said:
I'm really having a hard time deciding if I should build my motor this winter My truck only has a 11k on it and less then 1k with Cheeta and injectors. I don't daily drive it and unless I'm pulling or drag racing. I'm putting dual fuelers on it for sure this winter because I'm out of fuel. I'm having trouble deciding what else to do.
1- Take this motor out and put it in the corner and build another motor?

2- Build the motor I have before it blows?

3-Put the dual fuelers on and cross my fingers and hope I get 1 season of pulling out of it?



I would like to try and build a motor myself but I'm in the process of getting prices on built motors also. Never built a motor before but I think I can do it with the help of friends and this site. Just looking for some advice from the guys that have been through all this before.
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Throw the Dual CP3's on... from what some of my buddies have done with the LBZ/LMM pistons you should be fine for a while with the extra fuel. If funds are not a problem you could always have Guy build you engine and ship it directly to you...
 
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paint94979 said:
Throw the Dual CP3's on... from what some of my buddies have done with the LBZ/LMM pistons you should be fine for a while with the extra fuel. If funds are not a problem you could always have Guy build you engine and ship it directly to you...
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I do have the money for an engine but I kind of like saving it for a rainy day. I got a price on a short block and long block with Stage 2 heads from Burkhard but I need to call Guy still. I also asked a local place but I'm leary of the unknown. Are the prices on Guys site written in stone or does he give some discounts if your buying alot from him?
 
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JD Dave said:
I do have the money for an engine but I kind of like saving it for a rainy day. I got a price on a short block and long block with Stage 2 heads from Burkhard but I need to call Guy still. I also asked a local place but I'm leary of the unknown. Are the prices on Guys site written in stone or does he give some discounts if your buying alot from him?
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Guy will ask you how much hp you want and then you go from there... IIRC I was quoted 15,000$ for forged Mahle pistons, forged carillos, cam, valve job, clevite bearings and machine work... basically everything short of the 7.1 stroker and ported heads. I like like the idea of him building the engine and me not having to supply a block right away:D
 
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JD Dave

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paint94979 said:
Guy will ask you how much hp you want and then you go from there... IIRC I was quoted 15,000$ for forged Mahle pistons, forged carillos, cam, valve job, clevite bearings and machine work... basically everything short of the 7.1 stroker and ported heads. I like like the idea of him building the engine and me not having to supply a block right away:D
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So what do you have to switch over from your old engine for that price?

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i just took mine out and sent it to him lol :thumb:
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I would do that but shipping to Socal from Toronto would kill me.
 
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JD Dave said:
So what do you have to switch over from your old engine for that price?
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I would pick up a 100% complete short block from Guy. basiclly remove my exisitng engine and install Guys. Then I would bring Guy my engine as a core.
 
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I'd shop around for a used engine and go ahead and build it yourself if you feel you can. you will need a good machine shop for some of the work. Talk to Guy and see what he'll do the heads and supply the parts for. There are several outfits that can supply what you need. Guy will treat you fair for sure. I'm with the other guys, I wouldn't change grenading a new motor. I don't think adding dual fuelers to your setup will hurt it however. More and more guys are building their own engines so lots of help to avoid the mistakes others have already made.:thumb:
 
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If you build it yourself be prepared to invest alot of time , and make shure you have the tools to do the job . You can save alot of money doing it all yourself but the savings only counts if your build is a sucsess and holds the power and last the apropriate time . On this site alone there is all the info that is needed , I am in the middle of building mine , even done all the cylinder head work myself and machining , Its def a job you can do yourself but i dont know if it would be a good first motor to build , I have had quite a few motor rebuilds i have done for myself and work before this one , but that doesnt meen it is out of reach for you to try , just a very expensive motor to experiment with and learn on .


It will be alot cheaper if you build it now while all your core parts are in primo shape , then if you wait untill a piston cracks . JMOP
 
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MadMaxx61 said:
Drive it to Buffalo and ship it from there. When I lived in Windsor I shiped from the US all the time. saves a lot of money.
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I get most of my parts shipped to Buffalo it terrible how much you get raped shipping into and out of Canada.
paint94979 said:
I would pick up a 100% complete short block from Guy. basiclly remove my exisitng engine and install Guys. Then I would bring Guy my engine as a core.
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I would most likely lean toward getting Tony Burkhard to do my build because he is less then 4 hrs from my house. I will call Guy and get pricing I like to keep everyone honest and who knows I could end up buying a motor from him
Subman said:
I'd shop around for a used engine and go ahead and build it yourself if you feel you can. you will need a good machine shop for some of the work. Talk to Guy and see what he'll do the heads and supply the parts for. There are several outfits that can supply what you need. Guy will treat you fair for sure. I'm with the other guys, I wouldn't change grenading a new motor. I don't think adding dual fuelers to your setup will hurt it however. More and more guys are building their own engines so lots of help to avoid the mistakes others have already made.:thumb:
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I have all winter to do the build and I think I can handle it, I like the feeling you get from doing it in house and I have a friend that owns a farm repeair shop and he has tore apart more motors and transmissions then he can probably count, so between him and you guys I know it will be done right. I'm also thinking long term and hoping this isn't the last motor I build.


Thanks guys.
 
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TrentNell said:
If you build it yourself be prepared to invest alot of time , and make shure you have the tools to do the job . You can save alot of money doing it all yourself but the savings only counts if your build is a sucsess and holds the power and last the apropriate time . On this site alone there is all the info that is needed , I am in the middle of building mine , even done all the cylinder head work myself and machining , Its def a job you can do yourself but i dont know if it would be a good first motor to build , I have had quite a few motor rebuilds i have done for myself and work before this one , but that doesnt meen it is out of reach for you to try , just a very expensive motor to experiment with and learn on .


It will be alot cheaper if you build it now while all your core parts are in primo shape , then if you wait untill a piston cracks . JMOP
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I've been watching your motor build very closely and I appreciate the time you and others take to post your info along the way. You are right about it being a costly motor for my first build but as my dad says "either it will be a great idea or a very costly one" What manuals would you guys suggest I buy for rebuilding the engine?
 
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JD Dave said:
I've been watching your motor build very closely and I appreciate the time you and others take to post your info along the way. You are right about it being a costly motor for my first build but as my dad says "either it will be a great idea or a very costly one" What manuals would you guys suggest I buy for rebuilding the engine?
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You do not need any manuals all the info you need is post in the Gm Spec area I feeled in or just ask or call and you will get what you need.
 
duramaximizer

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Ya, don't waste a good motor. If for some reason you would want to go back to stock, you could. Selling it, making it a farm truck latter on, or whatever, but don't waste a good motor.
 
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