2002 DRW rear end issue.

[JRandle]

Hey guys had my rims swapped a while back and about 10min after leaving I notice this..

So I tighten the bolts that somehow all got extremely loose.. Have driven it 3 times for a total of probably 50 miles and notice this after I get home from work..

So I'm looking for what I'd need to swap out the seal and maybe loctite to keep the bolts from backing? Also what would be the best oil to put in the rear end after I drain it?


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[clrussell]

Just use 75-140 synthetic gear lube..


As per a seal its a gasket.. You can jack that side up 6", pull the axle, clean throughougly, silicone, and re install.. Blue loctite isn't a bad idea.

 

[JRandle]

Just use 75-140 synthetic gear lube..


As per a seal its a gasket.. You can jack that side up 6", pull the axle, clean throughougly, silicone, and re install.. Blue loctite isn't a bad idea.

I meant gasket idk why I said seal.. Same concept I guess lol

Thanks for the info man! Figured it wouldn't be too bad to do!


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[jlawles2]

Before you pull it off, check the bolts to see if they are loose.

Who did the swap? You or someone else?

Might check to see if the gasket is broken and mis aligned, which would mean the axle was removed and put back in at a different orientation. As for the gasket, I think GM uses a chemical seal. You could make one with a hammer and some gasket material (or thin cereal box).

 

[JRandle]

Before you pull it off, check the bolts to see if they are loose.

Who did the swap? You or someone else?

Might check to see if the gasket is broken and mis aligned, which would mean the axle was removed and put back in at a different orientation. As for the gasket, I think GM uses a chemical seal. You could make one with a hammer and some gasket material (or thin cereal box).

They are loose again.

I took it to Ralph and Sons Tire in Chickasha, OK and I was talking to the guy I traded rims with while they were doing the swap for us. Of course I did not watch every small thing they were doing..

I took it back the next morning to ask if they knew what might have caused that and the manager talked to me like I was stupid for thinking that had anything to do with them switching the rims around.. But they ALL were loose enough to twist them by hand about 20mins after I left the tire shop.. He said "what if we change a tire and someone's radio stops working do we fix it too?" lol I called him an idiot for comparing the two.


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[TheBac]

If its the axle shaft flange seal leaking, use the NAPA 55350 metal gasket.

136 ft/lbs + blue loctite on the bolts.

 

[2004LB7]

They probably had one of there bottom feeder low pay/new employees swap the rims and he may have loosened those bolts thinking it is what held them on. Then, opps, realized it was the wrong bolts and didn't torque them down properly.

I have black silicone on one side of mine now for six months. No locktite but I did clean out the bolt holes with break clean first. Blue locktite would be a good idea

Also, no need to jack up the wheel to do any of this

 

[clrussell]

They probably had one of there bottom feeder low pay/new employees swap the rims and he may have loosened those bolts thinking it is what held them on. Then, opps, realized it was the wrong bolts and didn't torque them down properly.

I have black silicone on one side of mine now for six months. No locktite but I did clean out the bolt holes with break clean first. Blue locktite would be a good idea

Also, no need to jack up the wheel to do any of this

I just jack the wheel up to save a larger mess.

 

[JRandle]

Thanks for all the replies guys! Hopefully going to get to it tomorrow if time permits.. Luckily I have a company truck at the moment so this is my "extra" vehicle so I have time.


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[2004LB7]

I just jack the wheel up to save a larger mess.

True, lifting the wheel will alow most of the oil in the axle to drain back into the diff. I have done this too

 

[JRandle]

I have everything to get the job done besides the actual gasket.. Will be getting it asap. Plan on lifting that side up like stated above!

Sorry for the rookie question.. I'm sure I'll have more lol


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[jlawles2]

I don't remember if there is a seal on the axle end. I did mark mine when doing the hub seals.

Definitely recommend a gasket if you can find one.

I still think someone took the bolts out and then realized they screwed up. I have had one of mine out 3 or 4 times and never had to put a gasket on it. I did tighten the bolts to about 100 ft lbs or so. The axle end of the hub has never leaked on me, only the inner seal.

 

[JRandle]

I don't remember if there is a seal on the axle end. I did mark mine when doing the hub seals.

Definitely recommend a gasket if you can find one.

I still think someone took the bolts out and then realized they screwed up. I have had one of mine out 3 or 4 times and never had to put a gasket on it. I did tighten the bolts to about 100 ft lbs or so. The axle end of the hub has never leaked on me, only the inner seal.

Yea I believe someone screwed up too but oh well.. Guess I'll watch them closely next time.


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[c20elephant]

I don't remember if there is a seal on the axle end. I did mark mine when doing the hub seals.

Definitely recommend a gasket if you can find one.

I still think someone took the bolts out and then realized they screwed up. I have had one of mine out 3 or 4 times and never had to put a gasket on it. I did tighten the bolts to about 100 ft lbs or so. The axle end of the hub has never leaked on me, only the inner seal.

Yea I believe someone screwed up too but oh well.. Guess I'll watch them closely next time.


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Makes sense, with that said, the guy who did mistakenly remove/loosen the wrong bolts is in the category of he owns a screwdriver and should he be allowed to use it...:rofl:

Maybe the owner of the shop should have talk with the guy who did R&R of the wheels about this...

 

[830king]

I agree here sounds like a rookie made a simple mistake, at least you caught it with no harm done. I'd say good idea to talk to the shop management and have them talk to the guy who made the mistake...he was prolly some high school kid who was too scared to tell the boss he messed up.

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[JRandle]

Makes sense, with that said, the guy who did mistakenly remove/loosen the wrong bolts is in the category of he owns a screwdriver and should he be allowed to use it...:rofl:

Maybe the owner of the shop should have talk with the guy who did R&R of the wheels about this...

I need to go back in there and see if I can talk with the owner about it after I get it all done with a receipt in hand lol

I agree here sounds like a rookie made a simple mistake, at least you caught it with no harm done. I'd say good idea to talk to the shop management and have them talk to the guy who made the mistake...he was prolly some high school kid who was too scared to tell the boss he messed up.

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I asked my wife's uncle who works there and he said nobody has mentioned accidentally doing it but he'll like you said it coulda been some kid..


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[JRandle]

Okay guys I did all the steps I thought I needed to take and when I initially went to put the axle shaft back in I couldn't get the holes to match up.. I even made a mark on them so I knew what hole went where(don't know if that matters).. I noticed all the splines were the same and eventually got it in and bolted down..

Will that cause an issue considering the same holes I marked did not match up??

Thanks!


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[DixonM]

You will be fine.

 

[2004LB7]

If the holes done line up, rotate the wheel. As clrussell mentioned, jacking up that side will keep the oil from running out and allow you to turn the tire and align the bolt holes