Ok ok sorry i am easily distacted when it comes to the topic switching, i need to remind myself it is a forum and not a private conversation. To answer yoir Q, i ordered two fittings, i took my old one drivers side out, saw how easy it would be to drill out, matched the hole size by using what ever bit got kinda stuck in the bore of the ppe fitting, and bam, 2 rail fittings just like ppe's? I thought at least. Ta thunk i thoughts i was sooo smarts. I did run the two fittings for a couple weeks, i was gonna return the ppe ones, as i was fired up @ how easily i drilled out my own, but i didnt, i wanted to see the ppe logo so i took my over drilled stock ones back out and put the ppe's in. So you see now, why i have two ppe fittings and two messed up stock ones. DAMN i hate being norweigian sometimes.lol